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DarkRaven:
Euronymous is mostly right saying that skills and experience can make a big difference and most players ( myself included ) don't have enough experience.
For example, I got a walkover vs rudzian but he insisted to play in order to see the possible outcome. In his PvP gear he did no damage and died in 2 skorn shots, in his dps gear he did some damage and died in 2 spear shots... he was kinda bm saying that without wotb I would have no chance etc...
BUT, it was mostly because of what he did during my wotb.
Insane just circles a rock without hitting me for 15 sec, and with my usual build I couldn't get more than 3 hotas of which max 2 were crits.
Rudzian ran pretty much in a straight line.. he even tried to kite... with haunt. Basically he gave me full fury again and made it easy for me to catch and 2 shot him with increased crit chance hota from full fury. He doesn't have enough dps, but if insane did that it would have been a much different result.
As Euro said, the problem is lack of top players to test with... if vs all wds I know charge worked I thought that this is the way, no need to test more :)
Another example is tank dh using rf and camp mode vs barbs... it may work in public games but u will not be able to kill a decent barb, barbs can just go skorn wotb, run, ip if necessary and run out, u can't prevent them from regen if they fail with first wotb and eventually u will die...
I bet in all match-ups there are small things or unused skills that can probably turn the result upside down, too bad the PvP scene is small, almost nobody streams and few people communicate builds.
predsr:
its always amusing watching what rudzian is gonna type next lol :) im glad the bm guy is getting a beatdown :)
VenX:
Today I challanged p0is0nchita and if was fun and diffrent from how rest of the barbs play. He went for skorn and high damage, enought to one shot me almost every time with charge. It was a close game that ended 4:5 for him. I've wanted to test for a while, duels where barbarians is not allowed to wield shield (vs DH atleast) but responses I get is that is not viable to play skorn vs dh. I like to know is this been fairly tested since 1.0.7 ptr and against both legacy and non legacy and even blackthorne dh. I'd like alot of dh and barb response on this, but I will explain why p0is0nchita hade success without shield in my opinion
If I where succesful kiting his wotb he would cut down the paths of the map that gave him the most overview and tryed to get a good line of sight on me when he did not have major cds avaible, turning from defensive to offensive. This lead to me not be able to pre smoke screen as succesful as I do against other barbs. I won when he did not have a position advantage and I where able to repeat 2-3 burst sequenze consecutive. This kind of battle was far more enteraining, it was quick fights with the best map controller victorious.
Why I belive this can be balanced, simple. Resource. If the barb is offensive I need to predict when he charges and pre smoke screen, by failing is equal to death if not lucky. This will rise skillcap of both barb and dh. The DH can smoke screen every furious charge, but will then not be able to soak a rend or chase to score a kill. I noticed I only could kill him, if following statements where true.
1: Thrill of the hunt of cooldown
2: Furious Charge was not ready
3: Ignore pain, (да venx..facepalm)
This is just a suggestion to changes, but they should not be implemented this season. I knowI will upset your barbs now, but I noticed you all seem be outrageus when someone is able to kill you standing still in your tankiest gear. For me it's seems you say it's either op or bugged because you where not immortal, witch you shouldn't be.
If this rule should be implemented there probably will need some tweaks, but I belive this is the road to go, and this will prevent stalemates aswell.
IMP-Executioner:
2 hand only works if the dh has low budged gear
if he try this vs "real" dh he is oneshot
if u want to fight the only barb really using 2 hand on high lvl try me
i will go on playing this style if i get my warcry back vs the rapid fire rocket abuse
2 hand worked that fine vs dh that the barb was nerfed because the dh had no chance against it
so the barb got 15% hp nerf that isnt any longer needed since the dh got a dunno 90% ? dps buff with rapid fire
now u need 10 mio ehp not to be oneshot by dh (high gear lvl dh) in 2 hand u never reach more than 8 mio ehp with the warcry nerf so the setup is not viable any more and all barbs are forced to use tank
if u get caught by wotb u made mistakes - no barb is using wotb vs dh because it doesnt work at all vs top 10 dh
Forti:
One question. Top monks using massive ehp or massive damage build?
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