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VimeR:
with new rapid fire ban war cry is unnecessary, of course barb can play without, make this all res from items take relentless and play with 40-50k dps without fury for sprit and rend ??? but this wanna making rules ?
IMP-Executioner:
yes vimer thx ...
as of my tests all "regular" pvp barbs maybe not vimer and devil will be melted by the new rapid fire rocket build + ballistic build because the bugged rockets do something like 500% weapon dps and no 145% + 50%.
They have auto aim and its really funny to see my 18 mio ehp tank going down in seconds.
@ Euro ... since i am the only pvp tank maybe i should give you the facts. darkraven hase some nice thoughts but doesnt know the data.
PVP-tank has some huge disadvantages - biggest problem is lag on runspeed and missing fury regen.
The huge advantage is that you have endless life and decent damage.
Diabloprogress is useless to see someones ehp. If you want to compare look at viciouscattle-rankings and you will see my 2 barbs are #1 and #7 in the world! So its not just one tank you make rules against its "the tank"
Problem in the game is that ehp same as dps is autocatalytical meens the more u stack the better it gets.
Facts:
- if u reach > than 35 mio ehp you are nearly unkillable
- with all buffes i have 18 mio ehp, + ignore pain + relentless + -30% dmg cry i have about 45 mio ehp
- only class that can break this is wd (because of blizzards recource management system others can´t)
- with semi warcry ban i have 15,5 mio if i use overpower i have still 18 but not 100% of the time but i can time it very well
I tested some with iria who has more dps than every eu-dh alive and if you really want to hurt my "tank-style" take away my -30% cry not warcry or anything else.
The moment you do so i will have to use +30% dps cry. Thats useless because i have only 40 k dps unbuffed. And i will swich automatically to a 60 k dps unbuffed build to benefit from the 30% dps buff. All that will lead to a much more "non-stalemate" fight.
DarkRaven:
is that ehp vs elites executioner? and what hit does it take into account for block? because i can assure u it is pretty far off that score.
i will do the math in a manual calculator with details and tell u what the actual numbers are
DarkRaven:
in my tankier gear i'm in 6th place, but if its without vs elites i have a lot more, as i have max 35% vs elites
also my ehp is based more on reductions which makes life reg on gear a lot better and also block better.
DarkRaven:
try this manual calculator with full details
http://rubensayshi.github.io/d3-ehp-calculator/#intro
executioner, with your tank gear you have 6.3 mil ehp vs elites with dodge but without block and red vs melee and ranged
i have 6.8mil ehp vs elites without block and red vs melee and ranged
u do have more vs ranged, i have more vs melee but i have a lot more block which with my overall better reductions makes it pretty valuable.
any calculator that uses block in the formula is not that great as the incoming hit can vary a lot, u have to use manual calculators, even doing the maths yourself to understand how all things in the ehp formula work, but i'm pretty sure i can survive longer vs dhs, but we can test if u want.
i will leave this spec on for now so that u can test in the ehp calc if u want, maybe i got some data wrong for your char
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