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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 18, 2013, 12:55:49 pm  »
scenario 2:
What You are trying to do is having defensive stats on this items + Your opponent having crit damage version + SoJ + lacunis..
in this scenario Your opponent can only loose, cause he still can't kill You, but he is vulnerable enough to be killed by You...

Yep Devil you got it ! I always played scenario 2 because it works out perfect because i am nearly unkillable and still got dps to kill the other one. Thats normally the aim every pvp er is looking for.
Well u recognized it and dont wanna lose like the rest^^ I can understand this.
But good to hear that even you have to admit that you can only beat it by the rule both have to agree on the others spec. If we would both play scenario 1 and would tune dps up more and more until we have enough dps we would reach a point where i just kill you because i have the realm best items for that spec.

Nevertheless i hate draws myself and i agree all u said and tested with vimer.
If we fight i use scenario 3 setup because of all you said.
But first i w8 at least 1-2 more day for Jason because i dont like free-wins.

Bridge fight nofear wants to play all day is 100% stupid and makes no fun sorry.

Blizzard balanced the game very well on nearly or even max-gear level. Problem of the system is, that nearly every class can reset the whole fight after 30 or 45 sec. Based on things like lifereg, potion cooldown preparation ignore pain and so on. So if you are not able to kill in 30 sec everything will end in draws - thats the different and most anoying thing in d3-pvp compared to diablo 2. And all players @ high gearlvl see this fact very clear. And i agree on most of yours opinion that we need some rules that predict the usage of balanced setups that wont end in draws.

Next big problem is happening @ games between high gearlvl and mid-range gear lvl. While in diablo 2 even a normal player had the chance by landing 2-3 more critical hits to kill the "itemlamer". In Diablo 3 there is no chance of winning someone having doubled ehp by same dps because of lifereg and the cooldowns.

In Diablo 2 the player that lost his whole life died. In Diablo 3 the player that is alife after 30 sec life is invincible. Doesnt say anything about his dps and leads to draws by any direction.

According to all that facts my strategy (same mystical is using for example) was always to tune my setup by different items to the point that i can survive close > 30 sec and use that much dps that i can kill the opponent in under 25 sec.
If i manage this its win if the opponent can survive my dps its draw. According to all that devil you are right by looking for setups that lead to fair and not draw fights and spread it to the community. Just that they know what items to buy in future.

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 18, 2013, 04:12:51 am  »
the only thing i wanted to tell u in my first post was, that your former rush and kill tactic wont work again! I will tank you until we agree on balanced setup without wotb.

- we should play without wotb thats what i want
- you can tell me how much dps i should use and i will do so
- same procedure as if i play vs vimer
- i never play without runspeed ... even my iceclimbers have 11% run and i have lacunis ... if i think i need em i will use em

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 18, 2013, 03:43:11 am  »
you never played me dude and you know nothing about me ...

1. you never just outgear me
2. you won 5-1 because ultra dps and i tried 2 hand against this and didnt care on score anyway - if i use shield and 80% dodge i laugh at your hotas - makes no sense anyway because of draw - i agree
3. we talked about the same things ... and if u decide not to play wotb everything will be ok
- i always start tanky to see your dps potential - if it looks like draw i start using +30% dmg cry and skip -20% dmg cry
- if still draw i use soj
- if still draw i use critdmg litany

don´t know whats wrong on this i never try to force a draw and say you have to stack more dps...

I will only ask if we can stop round that i can use more dps - you can ask all it was always like that. If i couldnt kill someone in the past i asked if i may change to more dps - all agreed because better for them if i loose some ehp.

To just answer your question - ofc i can use soj vs you!

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 17, 2013, 22:50:38 pm  »
Jason is usually offline, however even when I had league duel with him, he never respond to me in game despite being "available". I think he doesn't care about barb vs barb anymore..shame, I would prefer to play with him final than with Executioner - build to draw barb  :D


... devil i know that you dont like my tanky interpretation of the game but your 1 hit wotb hota kill is also not the top bvb we all wish to have!

But you never even tried "normal" rend + run style vs me. If u run again your 900 k dps setup i will go 100% 20 mio ehp tank and just tank you and force a draw (at least i try ;D).
So if u choose to play without wotb we fight regulary. We wont duel 40 min a round if we see its still draw we say stop go town use some more dps. Will last until both sides are able to kill by 3 crit rend or whatever. Then we will have the best of 9 and its finished. Thats the way i would prefer .... same as it works vs vimer.

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 17, 2013, 15:55:06 pm  »
impossible to find jasonrewess ... and next 3 days i have maybe no time to play...

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General discussion / Re: PTR UP
« on: April 16, 2013, 14:27:14 pm  »
-.-*   

hum just impossible....

ptr is up and we cant test dh vs barb @ mystical

i made decent US-Barb and u sold some of your maingear.... maybe in some weeks we get another ptr^^

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 16, 2013, 12:10:53 pm  »
who play for third place in the barb vs. barb

you will face jason or me .... if jason will  be there somewhen .... still waiting and waiting :(

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 15, 2013, 11:40:34 am  »
back :D,   maybe jason doesnt even know that it is playoff time - can someone plz tell him? he seems to be online once a day  8)

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 14, 2013, 16:04:05 pm  »
sorry can´t w8 any longer need to go to work

- next chance tomorrow

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 14, 2013, 14:34:14 pm  »
 :-\ cant find jason

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 14, 2013, 02:17:58 am  »
has anyone seen jason ?

- best possible time for me seems today 2 pm MES

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 13, 2013, 14:32:46 pm  »
jason is not online :( and in 1 hour i have to go to work for 12 hours and then i sleep same next 5 days

cant we get some more days?

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League information / Re: Mirror Playoffs Topic!
« on: April 12, 2013, 23:10:08 pm  »
okie - have to work alot at the moment but i will whisper jason as sonon as i see him

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2.6 [Open Discussion]
« on: April 11, 2013, 20:13:06 pm  »
yep good summary!

And u talked about the difference between all and mystical! He plays same way i try normally. Win or draw.
Not like most dh. They play same as you iria: kill or die.

In fact for the dh the mystical way is the following:
- analyse the opponents ehp, rend-crit damage and cooldowns
- knowing his own cooldowns
- use always as much ehp, +healpotgear, + play defensively if u ran out of an cooldown that u can survive 3 rend-crits until your next prep is ready
- rest in as much dps as possible

> ending in always the same: he wins or its draw. its just a good analyse how rend works - the dmg is so predictable

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2.6 [Open Discussion]
« on: April 11, 2013, 11:06:44 am  »
lol stop talking about bounty and such things....

i already made a long post after my fight vs mystical 4 weeks ago!

If i use my standard anti dh gear - 2 hand setup vs his low para midgear eu-dh its 100% draw no matter what!
Same will happen if i face his us dh and swich to 1 hand + shield because he could kell me easy in 2 hand mode.

Thats fact i dont need any more tries! - Problem is draw is no fun!

And problem is how o solve draw. EU-DH start stacking dps and get 2-hited by me. That was most of the Time the case. So in my eyes ban all warcry runes looked like the way to go.

As i faced mystical he didnt react like eu-dh. He stayed defensively geared always able to survive 3 rends. Forcing me to use dps gear- then it was "average fight" but will be 100% win for any ultrageared dh like his us-dh.

So knho what do u want to see if i fight again vs mystical.  10 min game - he kills me in 2-hand. I swich onehand+schield - 40 min draw game. I will use dps - i will loose. He will maybe go dps - i swich def and will kill him.

The barb nerf in my opinion was the best way to help the eu-dh to survive if they stack dps dps dps just to be able to land a killing blow by giving up all ehp. It should help the duels avoiding long discussions who has to stop tanking. Barb has to stay def anyway and if u want to force the dh to go full dps you should give him a reason.

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