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PvP / Re: Zasady PvP?

« on: March 06, 2013, 15:47:28 pm  »

Ten zapis o aktywnej grze jest nie do wyegzekwowania. A tobie green odradzam pasywną grę DH. Im dłużej trwa gra tym większa szansa na to, że popełnisz bardzo bolesny błąd i po grze.

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 06, 2013, 15:30:59 pm  »

mannercookie you look at WDs from barb's perspective. WD is not "useless" vs monk for instance.
I do agree with you about the DH tho. Was surprised to see no actual nerfs to DH.

We no have top gear, so what we know about pvp? WD is very weak on brawling and its the reason why in top two are Blud and Keen, when Kaio with one of best class(wizz) for pvp is at 23 place^^

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 06, 2013, 14:01:44 pm  »

@devil

,,I lost with You, cause  I didn't use berserker..Anyway, You see that even with inspiring presence, and lack of PvP items, You could beat me.''

So how vimer and drake(worse gear than yours) won with me without berserker and inspiring presents, when u couldnt do that only without IP?

Both dules looks that:

1. Barb low on hp use ignore pain
2. Barb go up-left corner and to hit him i must come close to rend range. It's barb's bunker style. Many monks do same.
3. If i come i got rend, if crit its really bad, if i w8 he why for cooldown of potions, ignore pain, jump and charge.

Im really hothead and I can't w8 ages to my chance so i go and take rend;p Maybe I'm noob, but this map really pisses me off. If left up corner will be dead zone i can agree with no nerfs for barb.

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Rules & development / Re: Natalya legacy set

« on: March 06, 2013, 03:35:10 am  »

I got the new Nat Set, and i am fighting a lot of Barbarians. If you look @ my profile, i got not the absolutely top gear, but it´s still far away from average. Im sure that i am not as good as Lilith or Mysticalz @ the moment, and i got to practice a lot more....but, i only can agree with Green here.

The duels vs Barbs (Painsup, Sprint, Rend, Chicken, Regenerate) <--- Standart style nowadays, is just making me mad.
When i hit them hard, they just sprint away and regenerate, i am forced to chase them and waste all my discipline to get a "Maybe" kill, if i can´t kill him...he just fucks me up, coz im out of disci. Ofcourse i just can say "Fuck you", i don´t chase you, but then he will everytime come out back behind the walls with full hp, and the game starts again. The duel lasts so long, till he lands 2 lucky rends, for the cost of all my 158 discipline = Dead.Dead. I would very appreciate if the experienced non legacy DH´s give me information ( How to) about their dominating vs Barbarians, i am allways willing to learn.

I'm legacy nat user but u can try my build:

Hungering Arrow - Devouring Arrow
Impale - Chemical Burn
Vault - Tumble
Smoke Screen - Lingering Fog
Preparation - Battle Scars
Marked for Death - Mortal Enemy or Fan of Knives - Fan of Daggers

Thrill of the Hunt
Sharpshooter
Tactical Advantage

With this build i can win with every barb, but i feel blood lust when i see them near to death and rush in melee range^^

Tactics

1. 24ms
2. Try to use trill of hunt when charge and jump is on cooldown
3. Run away when he use ignore pain.
4. try to use vault, not  smoke screen most of time.

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 06, 2013, 03:22:50 am  »

Can we ban the chemical burn rune on impale in Monk Vs. DH?

I think possible ban of Sharpshooter might even things out

Crit chemical burns are like crit haunts except the DH is 10x more mobile and invincible than a WD.  Chemical burn is the issue.

But chemical burn can miss(basic dmg no DoT), and i must aim perfect to hit u:)

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 06, 2013, 03:17:37 am  »

Devil you are really funy guy:)

,,ofc top 10 pvp dummy barb will own top 1000 pvp dumy dh..who is wearing inna pant's and witching hour for pvp? that's not good, You need ehp, and not die from 1 crit rend.''

Scorpion top 1 pvp dummy lost with u. I with 2k pvp dummy, inna's and witching hour won 5-2. bitch, please!

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PvP / Re: Zasady PvP?

« on: March 05, 2013, 23:20:39 pm  »

W takim razie rówież twoje argumenty są nic nie warte, bo jesteś jedną ze stron:) Masz jakiś argument przeciwko nerfowi poza tym, że wydałeś kupę siana na sprzęt z witem? Pokaż jakąś sensowną alternatywę dla zakazu używania inspirującej obecności to nie ma problemu.

Może nieustępliwość? W sumie bardziej wkurzające bo wydłuża czas dobijania strasznie.

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 05, 2013, 20:51:58 pm  »

I think Barb vs DH is pretty balanced. The problem is the SKILL level required to play.

So now change set to new nat, go and make it with this set:)
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Impossible? So without baning this skill 90% of DH with new nat are forced to spend ~2kkk for average legacy nat?

For me they can make as euro said: hp regen passive is allowed if opponent use legacy nat.

2kkk^^? I can sell u main set for 2kk and than i will buy 1 another and save 1kkk for new gems;p

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 05, 2013, 18:40:47 pm  »

@Kaio

U mean DH vs WIZZ?:p

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 05, 2013, 18:23:49 pm  »

If there is a way to not ban inspiring presence - please bring it.

If there is a way to not break the wd class in the way euronymous suggest - please bring it.

One thing for wd vs barb is to only ban hex and wotb, and leave the rest untouched. Thoughts?

One thing? Didn't wd must choose between spit walk or spirit vessal?

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 05, 2013, 17:46:36 pm  »

Euronymous get a good example, by let's say banning 12% MS in Barb vs New Nat DH, could be a good attempt..However banning inspiring presence is banning people like me who spends billions on gear with high str-vit peaces...that's just NOT FAIR...You can't force people to sell all their gear and come up with new set of items without touching other class, this is not balancing, this is nerfing...there are other ways to balance that not require that dramatic changes..

Maybe ban mf or gf? MS it's much less importants. IMO inspiring presence should be banned. Another way is ban for nerves of steel and/or/ relentless, ignore pain. Wanna get imba life regen and kite all the time? No problem but u must be beatable.

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 05, 2013, 16:25:25 pm  »

Legacy nats vs. Barb:
DH wins no matter what

Yea... one mistake and im dead cose of low survi:)

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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2

« on: March 05, 2013, 14:38:51 pm  »

Your gear banned? What u mean? Btw  show me that good dh in eu who laugh at me:)

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PvP / Re: Zasady PvP?

« on: March 05, 2013, 14:27:12 pm  »

Jakich wycieczek osobisty? Napisałem, że kończę z nim dyskusję i tyle.

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PvP / Re: Zasady PvP?

« on: March 05, 2013, 14:22:43 pm  »

testujemy end game lvl i skill, a nie Twoj poziom.kto powiedzial ze Ty jestes wyznacznikiem? przeciez wy DH sie bedziecie podkladac byle przepchnac te korzystne dla was zasady.

ostatnio jak gralismy to przeciez wszystko bylo mega blisko. po tych zmianach to moge stanac i dac sie zabic...ale spoko zrobie takiego tanka ze dh beda blagac o remis

Ja kończę z tobą dyskusję drogi *. pozdro
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ale bez osobistych wycieczek plz