Diablo 3 Clan League - PvP forum
D3CL Community boards => D3CL support & feedback => Topic started by: DS-SoJ on May 18, 2012, 13:31:09 pm
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just wondering about language in the trade section, would it not be better to have the trade sections in each international forum, I've just seen a thread in the trade channel and I can't understand a word of it ^^
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yea, we're talking about this on admins forum :)
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ah kk man :)
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I personally think that all trade threads and forums should be English with out exception. You don't have to be a language freak (like me) to make simple trades.
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for now, there wont be a trade section. its useless since AH works fine
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for now, there wont be a trade section. its useless since AH works fine
Actually, it would be quite useful since AH makes you pay 15% fee
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Yeah and you have items limit. We will probably make english-only trade section, but maybe with more users active or when pvp mod will be released.
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I agree. 15% fee is too much when it comes to sell ~10 mln worth items.
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I personally think that all trade threads and forums should be English with out exception. You don't have to be a language freak (like me) to make simple trades.
Actually there's a discussion on other boards why people don't join your community. Guess what ... it's the language.
Believe it or not, this forum will never succeed as the great european pvp center you are aiming for. Get rid of the polish aftertaste, make one single small polish language forum for your national scene and tell your members to talk english in the english forums. ALSO REMOVE ALL DUPLICATED BOARDS AMONG YOUR LANGUAGE SECTIONS, we dont need 4 general forums in english, german, polish and czech section.
AND OMG, which retarded guy is responsible for the awfully divisioned sections at this board? You'll have to learn much, if you ever want to succeed with this project. Start by examining other successfull boards and how they division their sub-forums.
Pretty disappointed with what you have done, thought you're a team with experience. Doesn't seem so. Sorry to wake you up.
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Hehe Richi.. that's a clear message.
I agree with you and have put these matters forward in an earlier stage. - I hope your (and my) input will be used.
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Thanks for being honest, finally.
It seems to me, that no matter what we will do, people wont start massively registering as long as there is no pvp mod. Why? First of all, because most of them have way better forums to talk about general aspects of Diablo 3, probably every nation has its own. Secondly, because most of our users are fuckin poles, most posts are written by fuckin poles and whats worse - whole community was established by fuckin poles. Its not my fault, that we had the strongest pvp community ( in numbers, dont care about pvp skill ) till the very end of Diablo 2 and that it was very easy to bring them to forums right from the beggining of Diablo 3. But we won't delete forum database just to make international users feel more comfortable, thats not the way.
When there will be PvP - hopefully we will have a chance to show ppl our huge experience from diablo 2 ( we aint 1.10 newfags like someone from ur forum was writing, Bastard ) and other games and that we are able to make professional tournaments, not only for poles.
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PCL has indeed been the longest standing community. There is absolutely no question (in my eyes) that the english speaking communities were of a better quality than the Polish one. It's bullshit.
Its not my fault, that we had the strongest pvp community ( in numbers, dont care about pvp skill ) till the very end of Diablo 2 and that it was very easy to bring them to forums right from the beggining of Diablo 3. But we won't delete forum database just to make international users feel more comfortable, thats not the way.
When there will be PvP - hopefully we will have a chance to show ppl our huge experience from diablo 2 ( we aint 1.10 newfags like someone from ur forum was writing, Bastard ) and other games and that we are able to make professional tournaments, not only for poles.
That you can make professional tournaments and leagues is something not even in question. If it wasn't the case I wouldn't be here, nor would many others. PCL can do this and will do it. The matter is mainly - and I bolded it in the quote - about attractivity for other European languages. You don't need to delete or neglect the origin of the site but if we aim to become the biggest; again - English must be the language. My suggestion would be to delete all the language sections - make the English section the overall section and keep your polish section for now in a different form: everything related to the game itself should be posted in English.
Let's say we add a dutch section - I post something there; a question, or a remark (or whatever) - I wouldn't be inclined to post it again for the sake of all the users. And this is, I believe, the core problem B4st4rd is aiming at: and the reason why the tactical boards are close to empty...
ps, can someone link me to this discussion on that other board?
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http://diablo3.ingame.de/forum/diablo-2-pvp-forum-15/die-tafelrunde-ii-der-pvp-ot-1481124/seite180/
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agree with jorr
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I agree with the points B4ST4RD and Spirals adressed.
Different nation-sections splits the community, because people mostly prefer to write in their native language.
If you don't check out all sections, it's possible you miss important information or different stuff.
It's comprehensible that new people visiting the forum get confused, noticing the activity of that forum is up to 90% in polish section.
IMO remove the nation-sections, keep english and create just one international info/problem-section in which all people can write down their request regarding technical problems or similar problems. Post a list of moderators, with info what language they speak and everybody can seek help there. But the talk should be in english and for everybody.
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Get real, that wont change a thing, all nations have better places to discuss diablo 3 pve matters, we can back to this when blizz will launch pvp mod, right now its just bollocks. We all know that this will bring just one change : less posts by polish users, but still same amount of posts by other users. Simple as that.
Btw, all important matters are always discussed in english, same goes with moderators board.
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If all nations have better places to discuss about D3 than here, why are there places at all?
But true, due to this forum is used 90% of polish people, they shouldn't pay for that. But changes must happen and there are solutions.
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I personally think that all trade threads and forums should be English with out exception. You don't have to be a language freak (like me) to make simple trades.
Actually there's a discussion on other boards why people don't join your community. Guess what ... it's the language.
Believe it or not, this forum will never succeed as the great european pvp center you are aiming for. Get rid of the polish aftertaste, make one single small polish language forum for your national scene and tell your members to talk english in the english forums. ALSO REMOVE ALL DUPLICATED BOARDS AMONG YOUR LANGUAGE SECTIONS, we dont need 4 general forums in english, german, polish and czech section.
AND OMG, which retarded guy is responsible for the awfully divisioned sections at this board? You'll have to learn much, if you ever want to succeed with this project. Start by examining other successfull boards and how they division their sub-forums.
Pretty disappointed with what you have done, thought you're a team with experience. Doesn't seem so. Sorry to wake you up.
I couldn't agree more. No disrespect to the stuff but you are stuck in old ways. Every forum except Polish one is dead, and don't feed us with that bs that pve something, we're waiting for pvp blaah blaah. By then some people will find another forum that is actually alive. If you don't listen to the community, you won't get far. Open your minds.
High five B4ST4RD
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So start contributing to the community, there is a lot to do. There was an idea of translating d3cl.com to other languages, but no one cares. There is always a lot to do on english website, but no one cares. There is a lot that can be discussed on english boards, but no one gives a fuck.
We have started as polish forum and we have made a long way to be at this point, we are doing our best to make this community live. You just shuffling with more and more ideas, which simply arent working. If we will introduce english only, we will have less posts from polish users and the same amount of posts of other users, because your next idea will be to delete forum base, because foreigners dont feel comfortable with so many polish users and polish posts.
Why pvp will probably change it? Because we have here few hundreds of old school pvp freaks, who mostly dont give a damn about pve, probably there is no other diablo 3 community with so many pvp addicted players. And i don't mean people, who are "farming, grinding and playing some pvp too, coz its fun!" I mean ppl who were playing pvp for 24/7 for last years, some for 5, some for 10, some for 15. We will probably start hosting pvp tournaments asap, we know how to arrange this and this will bring more people to our community. All D3CL matters all already discussed in english only, if we will see that people are getting involved, we might consider english as the only language to discuss about all pvp or even or diablo 3 matters on this forums. But atm it wont change a shit.
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There may be other forums in which d3 matters are spoken better than this (my native tongue is english so i have no choice in the matter), but you have to cut through 5 layers of crap posts and total bullshit to get to what you need. Just remember people are not here flaming the hell out of you, although their posts seem harsh, they're trying to help as we all have share a common interest in creating the basis for a better community, and they don't want to see it go down the toilet. Now, I'm sure alot of people are currently prefering spending their time playing the game rather than talking about it, but soon enough you will get more ways of bringing people in i.e. build guides, stratergy guides, farming guides etc etc. Just be patient, rome wasn't built in a day afterall!
Personally I was about average in PvP in relation to those who were the best whilst I played, who bo doubt only peaked once people better than them had moved on also. But that doesn't mean I've not come here to play prior to PvP patch release either.
All you need to remember is the community is built on the members in it, if you're putting (or pissing) people off now then you may loose some assets at the start.
I agree there are still improvements to be made but I don't think you've made a bad start thus far.