@DarkRaven
@Dilavo, your interest for PvP is quite admirable, considering especially that you admited yourself, if I remember correctly, you sold your PvP gear before 1.08
Yeah, that's right. That's why I never propose any specific changes to the current rules. I simply don't play ranked PvP anymore.
You asked me about stalker, he is the best geared wiz I have seen so far on EU, there may be others. In his pve gear he has 500+ k unbuffed dps. In his PvP gear at first he used skorn and had, if I remember correctly, 250k unbuffed plus soj. With spear and source I think he had 300k plus soj. But that's what he told me in game, I couldn't check if those were real unbuffed values
Yeah, his gear is really good, but IMO it's not well balanced (I will go back to that in a moment).
About ehp... I know everything about ehp , I can easily reach one of the best ehp scores in eu ( and real PvP, vs elites, ehp) please don't tell me I don't know how to judge ehp
That's really impressive. It seems then that you just made a mistake when you were calculating MoKKaL's EHP.
I was saying that if stalker, or other wiz with access to gear worth multiple tens of billions, gets the PvP experience of mokkal, knowing how to properly gear for this matchup, the games will be pretty one sided.
I think we really talked too much about one of the most balanced, and fun, match-ups in D3 PvP. Most barbs and wizards are happy with the no-wotb being only rule.
So at top level gear it is one-sided or balanced? I'm confused.
Making rule propositions to change this is absurd, while there are plenty of imbalaced match-ups we should focus on.
You won against every wizard you played in the current league 5:0. This is balance for you? When I look at your scores against wizards I see that you didn't play even one single close duel.
Stalker
www.d3up.com/b/278413
Dps vs elites 353k with 1.27aps
Ehp 797k without dodge 979 with dodge
Mokkal
www.d3up.com/b/739550
Dps 274k with 1.41aps
Ehp 744k without dodge, 1036k with dodge
With similar ehp stalker has 30% more dps with lower aps, which is better vs barbs from what I have seen so far. His ehp is better vs rend while worse vs hota. mokkal has more life per sec which matters a lot.
I'm not sure what gear is MoKKaL using against barbs. My guess is 12% ms against barbs using shield and 24% ms against barbs using 2-handed weapon. We would need to ask him though. I'm also not sure what gear is Stalker using against barbs. I don't think he is playing with such low HP/sec. IMO with such gear he wouldn't stand a chance in just a bit longer fight. Anyway I will compare the data you gave me.
MoKKaL24% ms
DPS (from d3up):
total DPS against elites: 274 710.99
as: 1.415
cc: 52%
crit dmg: 469%
raw DPS: 194 131.33
EHP:
all res: 943.7
armor: 3.814
elite dmg reduction: 7%
HP: 84 281.58
total dmg reduction against elites on arena: 92,63078714%
total EHP against elites on arena: 1 143 698,541
Dodge:
28,2%
Life regeneration:
Life per second: 1 020
effective Life per second: 13 841
Stalker12% ms
DPS (from d3up):
total DPS against elites: 353 252.08
as: 1.27
cc: 41.5% (his cc with RoF 48,5 and that means his total and raw DPS with RoF is even higher)
crit dmg: 545%
raw DPS against elites: 278 151,24
EHP:
all res: 853.3
armor: 3,865
HP: 96,582.64
total dmg reduction against elites on arena: 91,52505096%
total EHP against elites on arena: 1 139 625,023
Dodge:
18.52%
Life regeneration:
Life per second: 297
effective Life per second: 3 504
Conclusions:
They both have similar EHP against elites (Stalker has slightly lower). MoKKaL has 12% more ms, much more higher dodge and much more higher effective life per second. Stalker has much more higher DPS (total and raw). They both have definitely top level gear, but if I was about to choose from those 2 sets I would take MoKKaL's gear. It's simply more balanced.
@Shadow88
When i test in private duels - mostly yes (at least i try^^). u dont?
Well yea, I don't, at least most of the time (I might be the only one though).
The real funny thing is actually that this was only because of a lack of knowledge. When i joined this test league and won vs every barb that i dueled the wizards i know (basically ximae & mokkal) began to think different and now were able to kill barbs that have been "destroying" them before. (i defend barbs here, because i know a lot of them, and i somehow felt sorry for them when they were nerfed hard back then)
the rof/ cm/ stun build i invented is actually pretty strong vs barbs if you know how to use it, but yet i still see alot of wizards using magic missiles or blizzard vs barbs.....
MoKKaL lost a fight (keep in mind what gear he has) against N0F3aR in VC Tournament yestarday. This indicates that there is still something wrong in this match-up. I don't know anything about that tournament though so that's why I asked for his conclusions in my last post.
you ask why we have such a lack of wizards in the league here. [...] wizards are veeery play skill dependant.
What about dh's? Aren't they skill dependant? Compare pls the number of active dh's to the number of active wizards.
so tell me how these wizards should join a league?!
Here I have a question for you. You played in a test league, but for some reason you didn't join the actual league. Why is that? Do you play in some other ranked leagues/tournaments?