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Rules & development / Re: Ruleversion 1.2
« on: March 05, 2013, 17:46:02 pm »Legacy nats vs. Barb:
DH wins no matter what
- unless barbs find a completely different gearset for a couple of billions that is as effective as the inspiring presence build to stand a chance
- vast majority of previously new nats DH will buy a cheap legacy nats set to get easy wins vs. barb
I think these are both kinda false, cheap legacy nats wont win vs barbs, played lots of games yesterday, both of the top barbs won most of the games, the only barb i won (approx 10:6?) wasnt even his main, and i doubt his gear is even near the tier as the top barbs i faced
It's not about how YOU play against some barbs. No offense, but from my experience against DH it is probably the class that requires the highest skill to succeed (movement, aiming, resource management and so on).
How come that on the US server there are DH that can beat almost any barb without rules? With gear comparable or even lesser than yours. Now imagine them playing vs. those barbs not using inspiring presence. Also keep in mind that most barbs in Europe look up to the barbs from the US, so it's not like barbs on US are noobs. Some of the US DH already posted in this thread how easy it will be without inspiring presence.
That's what I often see in this thread and what the rules are mostly based on. You have to look at the bigger picture, not jump to conclusions as a result of your own limited testing.
European ladder: WD>Barb>Monk>DH>>>Wiz
Top players from US state: Barb>DH>Monk>WD>>>Wiz
Both 1.07 D3. Basically we all agree that Wiz needs to be buffed*. Barbs>DH on both realms, not by a huge margin if you look at the top players. All the other match-ups seem to fluctuate a lot. It's more of rock-paper-scissors there than true class imbalances. In my opinion it's absolutely stupid to balance these right now except for some really minor tweaks.
*but, if you read my previous posts, in a more balanced way. Taking away all the defensive abilities of a class just so Wiz can kill them easier doesn't make sense.
@Blud, do you really think that fighting Wiz without Spirit Walk, Pets and Hex/Horrify result in a fair and fun duel?
@error
Movement speed: If that would really benefit the duel and make it more balanced I don't think any Barb would have a problem with getting rare bracers instead of lacunis. It's just a single piece of item (that any decent barb should already have anyway) that doesn't make or break certain builds.
I disagree that the average of matches between all classes has to tend to a 50% ratio. In a small league like this it's highly possible that a class is underrepresented with a playerbase that's just not at the top-level with their gear and skill yet. Like I said above it's really misleading to base rules on the current standings of the european league or some hours of testing between the admins.