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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 12:30:15 pm  »

Yes "Wifes" and "D3" are mortal enemys 

"so if you consider that using rf doesn't have disadvantages for legacy why not allow all skills for barb"
Because legacy Dh´s got dmg disatvantages, and we would give "Stalemating" a "go and have fun" signal.
Thats the only reason for me.

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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 12:07:53 pm  »

and don't forget that mystical " top skill " legacy dh considered the matchup was perfectly fine with no restrictions even before 1.08.

This is just not true Darky, i played a lot of times with MysticaL, and we talked a lot of times about this.
He just was trolling...Ask him self if you meet him again. He was stalemating for hours not able to kill a good barb, and the barb wasn´t able to kill him. It was fine when a barb joined the battlefield in a offensive gear setup. The most Barb´s didn´t do that.

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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 12:03:30 pm  »

Darky, we can test it today if you like. I am online from 22:00 cet.
I´ll show you that rending me isn´t eazy, because the whole gameplay around RF in combination with Impale, depends on "Thrill of the hunt" for me. A "standing still" only can afford a BT DH while sitting in healing turrets with brooding up.
With this you can´t kill a "clever, good Barb" who doesn´t try to kill you like a brain afk freak.
You forget the big vs elite dmg reduction by BT DH´s. <-- Thats the diffrence to New Nats DH´s.

"To still keep it simple, maybe impose restrictions vs legacy dhs and allow all skills vs non legacy" <---- That sounds worth to think about for me.

Let´s test today, and make conclusions after this.

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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 11:01:06 am  »

Darky, i don´t understand you

You wrote "predsr is a very good legacy but rapid fire doesn't advantage them".

So why allow everything for Barb, when he uses it? It doesn´t advantage him..?
I would change it into anything like "If a DH uses the BT set in combination with Rapid fire, then there are no restrictions for Barbs" Because the DH is able to Tank like a Boss, and still has a shitload of DPS. But even here, you just can stalemate this match, BT Dh´s don´t have a mobility to set the final blow on you if you play passive after some hits.

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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 10:52:26 am  »

Darky thats the reason why i wrote this:

"Here i would recomend a overview of the rules for "Non BT Tank DH´s", because they aren´t ok in my eyes right now".

@ Forti, as you can´t tell anything constructive in this topic, i would appreciate if you just keep outside of this. I didn´t notice anything usefull for the pvp community in your 365 comments. Thank you.

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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 10:31:58 am  »

Do you know that vimer and nofear are overgeared than any dh in league? Also dh's in league are not so pro's. I lose with one old-nat (very good gear, legacy nat cost around 10b I think) 3-5. So in my opinion it is not about unbalanced dh vs. barb

about dh vs. monk. Yes, unbban chemical burn! let's have lose every single fight vs. dh again! yuupi yayaey : D

Nofear ist overgeared? Don´t let him read this  He is a top player, thats the fact.
I spoke about good monks, can you consider yourself as top geared and skilled?
You call all DH´s in the curent league noobs? Bad? How should we take "Not so pro´s"?
You loose still every single fight vs DH, even without chemical burn. So whats your point?

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Rules & development / Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion

« on: June 13, 2013, 09:28:26 am  »

Here i would recomend a overview of the rules for "Non BT Tank DH´s", because they aren´t ok in my eyes right now:

- DH vs Monk
I met a few very strong Monk´s the last weeks, even with "Chemical Burn" i had very hard times.
The thing is, that i got to play vs ">>>Good Monks<<<" 99% out of sight and snipe all over the map with HA and Impales, and hope that i hit. If i let them enter my screen, i die, or got very good luck and can escape.
The big dodge potential of Monks makes "Grievous wounds" just useless..
Don´t come up with Rapid fire now Everything that lets you stand on a place even for 2 seconds can kill you vs a good Monk. My suppose = Allow "Chemical Burn" again.

- DH vs Wizzard
Mokkal and Ximae can for sure say here that i am not the worst DH vs Wizzard player.
My setup vs Wizzard is "800" Lightn. Resis, 110 k HP, 25 k Globeheal.
I played yesterday vs Vegeta, and was very surprised how dangerous a good wizzard can be.
Even with the crazy defensive statts that i listened below, i was a "One shot" in let´s say 90% of all SA, Teleport hits.
After i was "Totaly" destroyed few times in a row, i took "Battle Scars" and the "Boar", and even with those, the matchup was slightly more balanced for me. Because in the most times like i mentioned before i even couldn´t use it, 1 SA, Teleport hit and im dead. <---Here is Brooding and the Turrets also useless
If there is a DH that says "It´s ok, i can bang all wizzards even with curent rules", i invite you to the game, play vs Vegeta.
My suppose = Allow Boar and Battle Scars again...

- DH vs Barb
Look on the statistics in the league right now, good Barbs are still beating up good DH´s.
Vimer = 100%
Nofear = 100%
DarkRaven = 100%
I don´t see the big "Overpower" of "Rapid fire" right now that you guys talk about.
My suppose = Let it as it is right now

- DH vs WD
This is the biggest Problem since the start of this league because just nothing has changed and they are still facesitting on us with their big butts.
My suppose to even start balancing this is = They need to choose Gargantua or Dogs, and "Spirit Walk or Spirit Vessel". WD´s got a very high survive and tank potential, so 1 of those things needs to be banned vs DH for sure

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News / Re: Awards and cooperation with loothunter

« on: May 26, 2013, 04:00:07 am  »

Sounds good
But we need to rework some rulz like Barb vs DH. Since the buff of rapid fire, similar geared barb and dh with similar skill the favor is for dh. So barb need full defense ( sometimes war cry + shout, rapid fire makes a lot dmg now).
Also still think WotB no rune Insanity would be good against wizards.
And agaisnt the big problem - WD. Banning firebats doesnt resolve the problem. ( dont look at Vimer, pls)

Do it like Exe or Darky, i don´t remember now who of them said.
Buff Impale Dh´s vs Barb / Nerf Rapidfire DH´s vs Barb

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News / Re: Awards and cooperation with loothunter

« on: May 25, 2013, 23:32:43 pm  »

100% agree with Darky

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Community information and announcements / Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2

« on: May 18, 2013, 00:02:22 am  »

You guys are funny, last season most Dh´s have been buttwiped by Barbs.
Now DH got a bit stronger, and you begin to think about nurfing them right from the start.
Think more about WD´s. They´ve shit on all in season 1, and they go on shitting on all in season 2.
Once again i quote you guys "Make rules depended on best players".
I´m ok with buffing Barb vs DH if Vimer looses 2-3 fights vs average RF DH´s If he doesn´t, the comment "L2p, Use your brain" would be right in place, wouldn´t it?

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Community information and announcements / Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2

« on: May 17, 2013, 13:51:53 pm  »

To set a point in the RF discussion, there was several times told "Making rules depending on top players".
If there will be 2-3 DH´s who will be able to destroy Vimer with RF and Balistics, we can talk about allow WC and more vs Rf users 

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Community information and announcements / Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2

« on: May 17, 2013, 08:47:12 am  »

Darky, average Dh´s got now good chances vs good barbs if they do it the right way.
Ballistics, Rapidfire, Impale(bleed), Mark of death (If you play without hate regenerator) + Thrill of the hunt. I wait till you charge, leap, right after that i shoot you into ignore pain within the next 2 sec, if you think to run to not get hitet by Rf you´ll be finished by Impales.

The most Dh´s didn´t figure it out till now, but it could be a pain in the ass for barbs versus good dh´s.

What about WD vs DH dear R.Developers? There is still no real chance for DH´s to compete vs good geared, clever WD´s coz there isn´t much brain needed as WD 

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Community information and announcements / Re: US &amp; EU D3CL Season #2

« on: May 14, 2013, 13:18:38 pm  »

So, no one will explain me why WD have no restriction vs.  Monk and other classes?

Because WD is one of the weakest classes in D3! The DH and Monks need to start using brain and think about some good moves, then i promise...you will win vs top WD´s eazy! 

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Community information and announcements / Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2

« on: May 13, 2013, 15:52:32 pm  »

Euronymous, it´s op in combination with the new Rapid fire. Maybe we should think about that. I can´t accept that a full BT Tank Dh, sitting in healing turrets+brooding with mass hp and life/s, can 1 or 2-shot me even without Soj while i try to set 3-4 massive impale crits to force his preparation. Sure i can get the same BT Set, and sit in Turrets too...but trust me this "Kalashnikov-style, Western-shootout, Auto-aim"  Rapidfire gaming is a thing that kills the fun in a mirror.

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Community information and announcements / Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2

« on: May 13, 2013, 14:35:56 pm  »

Btw, 1 question :
Is the bunker style of DH allowed? I hear some dh already use it on this season. So?

It´s pretty much how you definate "Bunker Style".

1. Putting on ground 3 Healing-Turrets in a spot, and sit inside them with brooding+Full BT set+130 k hp, is "Bunker Style".

2. Moving around on the map with setting up Healing-Turrets in some diffrent spots, and sit inside them with brooding+Full BT set+130 k hp, is what? How long can a player sit in a place surrounded by turrets on one spot before we can call it "Bunker"?