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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2013, 03:39:23 am »

had some nice duels today vs dh - the combination of rapid fire, ballistics passive and the 100% stun every 7 seconds passive works so incedibly well vs barbs - plz test it with some guys but in my eyes its really way over the top dps

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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2013, 11:56:59 am »

Btw, 1 question :
Is the bunker style of DH allowed? I hear some dh already use it on this season. So?
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2013, 12:35:50 pm »

No, it is not allowed.

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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2013, 13:00:46 pm »

the stalemate rules that have worked best in my experience are;

after stale mate each player get chance to change gear in town. this change must result in both players increasing their dps by at least 10% as well as having over 100k dps minimum. If a second stale mate occurs players can change gear again and must add at least another 10% dps and are not allowed to use a shield.
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2013, 13:18:52 pm »

What exactly mean stalemate? What if some players don't have gear to up dps?

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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2013, 14:35:56 pm »

Btw, 1 question :
Is the bunker style of DH allowed? I hear some dh already use it on this season. So?

It´s pretty much how you definate "Bunker Style".

1. Putting on ground 3 Healing-Turrets in a spot, and sit inside them with brooding+Full BT set+130 k hp, is "Bunker Style".

2. Moving around on the map with setting up Healing-Turrets in some diffrent spots, and sit inside them with brooding+Full BT set+130 k hp, is what? How long can a player sit in a place surrounded by turrets on one spot before we can call it "Bunker"?
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2013, 15:11:07 pm »

@Executioner and Darkraven ( our tank specialists :D)

I started a fun char on US some days ago and ran into this guy -->君千羽-3393
Pls check his profile and tell me what you think. I have yet to see a barb comparable to this....
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2013, 15:28:15 pm »

That's the tankiest barb on US server that has decent dps. Crazy ehp and just enough dps to kill with wotb.
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #68 on: May 13, 2013, 15:39:56 pm »

Btw, 1 question :
Is the bunker style of DH allowed? I hear some dh already use it on this season. So?

It´s pretty much how you definate "Bunker Style".

1. Putting on ground 3 Healing-Turrets in a spot, and sit inside them with brooding+Full BT set+130 k hp, is "Bunker Style".

2. Moving around on the map with setting up Healing-Turrets in some diffrent spots, and sit inside them with brooding+Full BT set+130 k hp, is what? How long can a player sit in a place surrounded by turrets on one spot before we can call it "Bunker"?

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this yet. That playstyle was already effective in 1.07 and now with 4%life/s, 60%life/45s, ~2k life/s and ~25%life/30s via pots combined with good mitigation and high dodge looks pretty OP on paper. Firebats will work but other than that I don't see many chars being able to kill such a DH.
If it proves to be OP then some skills should be banned (e.g. 2% turrets or 2% brooding but not both and turrets or traps but not both), that way you don't have to define "bunker style" anymore.

KNHO did you watch the vid I posted in this thread earlier? Reminds me a bit of D2 pvp.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 15:46:38 pm by Euronymous »
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #69 on: May 13, 2013, 15:52:32 pm »

Euronymous, it´s op in combination with the new Rapid fire. Maybe we should think about that. I can´t accept that a full BT Tank Dh, sitting in healing turrets+brooding with mass hp and life/s, can 1 or 2-shot me even without Soj while i try to set 3-4 massive impale crits to force his preparation. Sure i can get the same BT Set, and sit in Turrets too...but trust me this "Kalashnikov-style, Western-shootout, Auto-aim"  Rapidfire gaming is a thing that kills the fun in a mirror.
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #70 on: May 13, 2013, 16:11:04 pm »

@Executioner and Darkraven ( our tank specialists :D)

I started a fun char on US some days ago and ran into this guy -->君千羽-3393
Pls check his profile and tell me what you think. I have yet to see a barb comparable to this....
Best regards,
-Inferno-

well that guy is in my friendlist and he got the best weapon in the world because the seller didnt answered my request :D and yes its the best dps/ehp build for pvp so far in my opinion - wutongshu#1668 and keowen#1552 have also nice potential gear
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #71 on: May 13, 2013, 19:16:32 pm »


I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this yet. That playstyle was already effective in 1.07 and now with 4%life/s, 60%life/45s, ~2k life/s and ~25%life/30s via pots combined with good mitigation and high dodge looks pretty OP on paper. Firebats will work but other than that I don't see many chars being able to kill such a DH.
If it proves to be OP then some skills should be banned (e.g. 2% turrets or 2% brooding but not both and turrets or traps but not both), that way you don't have to define "bunker style" anymore.


well i actually have a bt set to troll pubs bunker style with my alt dh and most clases do have the means to burst that down. Mind my set is not awsome by anymeans just some 100k life 4.5k armour and 650 ar. but any bat wd or any high dps monk or dh could burst me down in a couple crits, even a 2h barb with hota. now a wiz has 0 chance vs that as he cant have that kind of one hit burst and cant stay there channeling vs rapidfire.

that would need to be addressed imho, like shield docs, its absurd the ammount of damage they can deal in that ubertanky setup.
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #72 on: May 13, 2013, 20:24:55 pm »

It's already addressed isn't it?

-   In duels versus the “Wizard” the skill “Companion” is not allowed.
-   In duels versus the “Wizard” the skill “Preparation” with rune “Battle Scars” is not allowed.
-   In duels versus the “Wizard” the skill “Sentry” with rune “Aid Station” is not allowed.
-   In duels versus the “Wizard” the passive skill “Brooding” is not allowed.

Bit surprised that you lost 5-0 vs. that WD. What kind of setup did he use?
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #73 on: May 13, 2013, 20:53:32 pm »

well honestly i suck vs wd its the only class i dont have build that might work against.

 Basically he was using pets, hex and spirit barrage, actually didnt inspect him, geared pretty damn tanky with shield. I think i activated his spirit vessel once or twice in the whole duel but he could still easily 2-3 shot me with barrage even using the shield, against my 900 ar, 4k armour,  7 e reduce, 100-120k life (depending on setup) with 25% dodge... so anytime i was dealing damage i was just taking more.

he is actually doing pretty well as im seeing in the tables now.
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Re: US & EU D3CL Season #2
« Reply #74 on: May 14, 2013, 00:57:51 am »

Tested the Ballistic passive dmg, and the dmg seems about right, i cant see anything abnormal there

Hi pred, can you plz take new nat set + dps gear + rocket rune + ballistic and test the dmg @ normal barbs i have seen so many dying in the first 2 secs.

This seems to work as intended. Rapid fire should do in total 649 % weapon damage/s for me, and that is over 3 million dps / second in dps gear. Tested with NoFear and sure he died within a couple of seconds, but that seemd reasonable
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