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[GREEN2172]

Getting loses without fighting, is the most bad aspect of this league @the moment.
I allways accept the challenge if the people ask me online, never denied one.
I love PvP, and thats the only reason why i play this game. I played in all leagues AoW, Duelliga, EuroPvP very active.
And thats why i am pissed of, because of this looses against people...i never would loos to. Am i forced to be online from 12:00 to 24:00 everyday to meet the children online? What if i play only from 22:00? I guess no...

In D2 Duelliga we handled it like this:

You see the opponent is online, you ask him for a duel.
- If there is no response >> Screen. <---handle it as denie Nr.1
- Ask on next day again. If he don´t likes to duel >> Screen. <--- handle it as denie Nr.2
- Ask on next day again @ denie nr.3 don´t care why... >> Screen. Send those screens to a judge...earn a 5:0 over this player.

This would be fair, and nobody get´s fucked with looses he doesn´t deserve.
I hope you think very good about this post.

That's why you have message system on d3cl site, you can post that "i'm online after 22:00, and cannot be before this hour" and judges know that you want to fight. If you don't send any message that means you don't interested in playing with that guy = w/o.

[Mr.Mag]

but we use this method but in much simplier way. there's a in-website communicator. you dont have to do screenshots. we see all messages between players. all you have to do is to answer or write first when you want to play. if both players cant make a deal about duel time - we wont grant a walkover to anyone in this situation. i think its fair? we grant a walkover ONLY in another player is not responding (which is consistent with what you have written).

i'll accurately describe the whole procedure in rules. i know it's not working good because not all players know how it works.

[KNHO]

I can´t remember, that those guys asked me 2-3 times on this site. And i can´t remember that those guys asked me for a duel online. But ok Mag, Green..Thank you for your responses. I´ll know about this now.

[Mr.Mag]

plz tell me challenge id (the whole link is ok too) and i'll check this out. i see all comments in finished duels, you cant (this will be modified soon). all your feedback about league system is very important to me. there's a lot of work to do and i agree - walkovers sux

[Green]

Actually, I'm the one who is giving w/o and canceling the matches.
Our rules are really simple, We've got logs in our communicator where we can see who was online and when, ofk what is he writing in EACH! challange and those are arguments for me, what to do with any match. As you saw for sure, I'm always writing the reason, why my decision was made like that, so I'm pretty sure that actually system of taking care the challenges is in a fair play spirit.

All of you can fell free to pm me here and ask me or show me some s/s why you should win match vs xx player and every other thinks which are related with this case.

[KNHO]

@ Mag
http://www.d3cl.com/en/league/viewchallenge/4287
http://www.d3cl.com/en/league/viewchallenge/4270

@ Green "My message" log is empty, i didn´t get any messages from you, where do you write the reasons to be informed to?

[Mr.Mag]

this is not a challenge. its your profile

[Mr.Mag]

for example http://www.d3cl.com/en/league/viewchallenge/4287

[kaio]

Gear swapping is a probem IF make umballanced a duel.

If both can do it and both can handle it = no need to set a rule for this (Imo)

-When u swap items oppenet could get advantage of this situation ( 1 sec maybe or a bit more)
-It's really really hard to check if sm1 swapped samthing during a duel.. There are also invisible items.. he could swap again... u shuld have a video of the duel and even with that he could have swapped in a hidden spot...

Rules of next season will be ofc not perfect first of all cose we can't do what blizz shuld do and also cose we all need to test alot more builds and tattics to find out new problems or bannable items/spec...

The best thing we can do is keep rules easy to be applicable

[KNHO]

Thank you Mag, i´ve editet my post. So whats happening now with this issue?

[Mr.Mag]

Green, when duel is finished, players cant see any messages, even yours.

in both cases you did not respond.

zalesSG#2175    2013-02-27 10:10:03
play ?

Emmett#2681    2013-02-27 02:10:35
Will back saturday

i wouldnt grant him a walkover in the 2nd one.i would be more merciful

[KNHO]

It isn´t a realy bad case Mag...coz it´s only a testing and rule developing season.
Now i am informed exactly about this terms, and will answer on every question as soon as possible.
Here again my idea for you.

- Let the people generally ask 3 times on 3 diffrent days. If there is no response, give the Walkover.

In my eyes, that is the most fair thing you can do for all players. If i got to answer "active", the people who want to fight have to ask "active" either. Asking once, just isn´t enough to get a win over a descent player.
Look @ my actual "Awaiting Challenges". I´ve asked 3 of them allready 2 times, and one of them 3 times. I ask tomorrow again, if there will be no answer <---- Walkover "OK".

[Mr.Mag]

2 or 3 times in different days is ok for me. i'll put it on rule dev forum

[KNHO]

Make it "3" Mag.

Let´s start a firework for a new Rule being born! Yeaha 

[Iria]

Here is a great idea on how to manage gear swapping if it is to be banned. If one player suspects another of gearswapping here is how to prevent it:

1) Both players enter into the dueling arena and if they cannot agree to no item swapping ask a moderator to join.
2) A moderator joins the game with an inventory of 29 junk items (2 slots each) and 1 junk ring/belt/amulet (1 slot). Then the moderator asks each of the players to pick up all 30 items resulting in occupying 59 slots (leaving one for potions).
3) If a player cannot pick up all the items, they will be asked to dump excess items into their storage and try again. When a player has shown they can pick up all the items, they drop them again.
4) Once both players pass this test, one can be sure both players have a fully empty inventory (with potion allowed).
5) This test can be repeated between duels if either player exits the arena.

While this is time-consuming, it is a 100% effective way to prevent gear swapping.