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Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« on: May 29, 2013, 22:22:40 pm »

Witch Doctor

Witch Doctor vs Wizzard:

• Haunt  banned
• Blood Ritual banned
• Choice of corpse spiders with jumping spiders rune, bats fiery, spirit barrage .

Witch Doctor vs Monk:

• Haunt banned
• Horiffy with Frightening Aspect rune banned.

Witch Doctor vs Demon Hunter:

• The choice between a zombie and monster dogs.
• Choice of haunt and Fiery Bats.
• Blood Ritual banned.

Witch Doctor vs Barbarian:

• Fire Bats banned.


Monk


Monk vs Wizard:

• Blinding flash banned.
• Impact cyclone banned.
• Thundering fist fleece rout banned.


Demon Hunter


Demon Hunter vs Monk:

• Impale with chemical burn rune banned.

Demon Hunter vs Wizard:

• Companion banned.
• Preparation of a rune war scars banned.
• Sentry with Aid Station rune banned.
• Brooding banned.


Barbarian


Barbarian vs Wizard:

• Threatening Shout banned.
• Berserker rage banned.
• Choosing between rend and inspiring presence.

Barbarian vs Monk:

• Threatening Shout banned.
• Berserker rage banned.

Barbarian vs. Demon Hunter:

• Berserker rage banned.
• Rend with ravage rune banned.
• The skill War cry is only allowed to use with “no rune”




Items.
• All antique items are banned



Yes. Those are suggestion from players I know personally and I'd like to know your opinion about this. I know that actually rules are not so pure,simple and balanced so I decided to post those. I'm open for all of your suggestions as far as they will be able to implement.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 10:05:55 am by Mr.Mag »
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Re: =HOT= NEW RULES =HOT=
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 01:19:27 am »

i kinda lol'd at threatening shout being banned vs monks.

have you not been 1 shotted recently?
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Re: =HOT= NEW RULES =HOT=
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 06:41:43 am »

Yes why so many banned monk vs Wizz? What about Wizz? U still guys think Wizz is a weak class?

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Re: =HOT= NEW RULES =HOT=
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 08:47:59 am »

so those are the rules, or the rules that ur going to fore from now on? kinda confusing topic name ..
Items.
• All antique items are banned

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Re: =HOT= NEW RULES =HOT=
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 09:16:29 am »

 Witch Doctor vs Barbarian:

• Fire Bats banned.


fire bats is no problem, this skill should be allowed... All good barbs lost in season 1 ( without swap gear from full dps too full ehp after berseker ) with similar geared wds, now wd have 2 % regen and still nothing change? Who made this rules ? barb cant win with wd with this same lvl gear
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Re: =HOT= NEW RULES =HOT=
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 09:48:47 am »

umhh not really like these rules speciallly as its adressing some stuff that wasnt a problem and not addressing stuff that is, ill speak from wiz perspective:

wiz vs wd: horrify needs to be banned vs wiz as there is no way to break it and getting hit by bats for 1 sec while feared is certain death. I would even say even ban the pets too as it is very hard to fight at range (to stay out of bat range) with pets all the time in the way absorbing hits.... but too much bans already and horrify is really more game breaking.

monk vs wiz: dont see any need to ban fists of thunder.

barb vs wiz: too restrictive for barb only need to ban wotb really

dh vs wiz: here i have a new ruleset to propose that ven, med and me were testing a few days ago and seemed the most balanced we have had so far.

ban: chemical burn, rapid fire, aidstation and brooding.
unban: companion and battlescars






« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 09:52:07 am by ximae »
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 10:04:37 am »

this topic name is very misleading. i'll change it for a proposition for the next season
« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 10:07:03 am by Mr.Mag »
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 10:46:35 am »

My suggest for monk.

Monk vs. WD.
- ban haunt
- horrify or firebats
- spirit vessel or hex.

For monk also ban Near the Death,  vs.  WD.

DH is very balanced game. Vs.  Wizz there should no be aby bans. I will talk about barb tomorrow. Don't remember two skill names.

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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 12:13:45 pm »

This is bullshit !!! Mr. Mag, this is not serios proposal. Barb vs DH rend with ravage banned? And how is supose barbs to hunt DH? This is absurd. And the new rapid fire is pretty op so war cry with all runes is NESECARY against similar geared/skilled opponent.
Also all other bans are too much and not nesecary. Seriosly. Banning shout against wizards??? HOHOHO, green omg, dude, have you played with barb against similar geared wizard?  I asure you, if you play it, you will want even WotB allowed since wizard's mega disable. And shout against monks.
And all other classes. DH vs wizard so nurfed, why? It is nesecary? WD should be able to use haunt against DH with rune 2 sec.
And as Vimer said about WD vs Barb.

PLS, take a serios look on rulz, becouse until now they are not correct ( yes, a big thx really for them, indeed you try to balance it).

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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 12:45:38 pm »

i really want to be constructive but all i have to say is:

season 1 : 300 players
season 2 : 50 players
season 3 : 10 players

not at least because of rules politics .. even no rules were better than all this :(
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 13:26:37 pm »

i'm not responsible for those rules. i dont know who has even created them. its definetely not a work of dev team (hey! theres no dev team :D)
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 13:45:15 pm »

Dont know about other classes Matchups but those barb rules are a joke. Whoever came up with that stuff vs wiz obviously never played against a decent one, even with only wotb banned the matchup strongly favors wiz. I mean choice between rend and ip... if u wanna have any chance vs wiz u have to use hota anyway so whats the point?

Vs Dh without berserker and wc without rune could get funny if bunkerstyle with rapidfire is allowed which seems to be the case.

Vs Monk i dont know, has to be tested on top gear levels but i am afraid that might end up with barbs beeing 1 shot victims.
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 14:32:50 pm »

Witch Doctor vs Barbarian:

The Witch Doctor can use either “Spirit Walk” or “Spirit Vessel” but not both.


this is my proposal in duels barb vs wd. All other allowed
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 17:00:20 pm »

i really want to be constructive but all i have to say is:

season 1 : 300 players
season 2 : 50 players
season 3 : 10 players

not at least because of rules politics .. even no rules were better than all this :(

Don't blame d3cl and its rules for that, blame Blizzard for not putting out a proper pvp system.

Look anywhere and you will find a similar drop in players. The mainstream along with all streamers quit after a few days of PTR 1.07. Most competitive players quit a few weeks into 1.07 because they realized that D3 isn't rewarding skill. The majority of players I played on PTR 1.07 didn't even log onto PTR 1.08. I haven't been on live 1.08 yet, but who is still playing now that they made an imbalanced game even worse with recent class changes? Can't be many.

Witch Doctor vs Barbarian:

The Witch Doctor can use either “Spirit Walk” or “Spirit Vessel” but not both.


this is my proposal in duels barb vs wd. All other allowed

18-0 with 0 competitors in this league and still demands huge nerfs to other classes, that's just embarassing  ::)
Nofear is #2 in the league with a budget barb and he too complains about other classes every day. Who do you guys want to play against? Do you think WDs and others classes are just waiting for more nerfs and that's why they haven't joined the league yet?
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Re: Rules proposal for the 3rd season - open discussion
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 19:58:22 pm »

euro you exactly know when good wd join too ladder will kill all barbs 5-0, this rules are just bad  ;) Wd with right gear was #1 pvp class and now with 2% buff is out of reach
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